Baratunde Thurston, Ashleigh Gardere, Michael McAfee
In the Making
- No. of episodes
- 9
- Latest episode
- 2026-07-09
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This nation is still in the making. We the People? We're in the making too. In the Making is a new series from PolicyLink hosted by Baratunde Thurston, featuring kitchen table conversations with PolicyLink CEO Michael McAfee and President Ashleigh Gardere. Together, they explore how to redesign the nation so that it serves all people.